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very somber anniversary this weekend

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sunday will mark the six-month

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anniversary of the Las Vegas massacre

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we're still no closer to knowing why the

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shooter did it one of his brothers

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though is speaking out for the first

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time and could have some answers why do

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people do stupid things because they

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don't have the right thing to do he was

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off on his own he lived his own life

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sure he had money that money ran out you

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can only put so much money in Vegas no

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matter how good at pushing a pencil you

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are sooner or later Vegas is gonna win

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the odds are against you he went out and

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did what he did over hookers and coke

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it's only so much of that you can put up

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with in your life that interview

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conducted by Jim Breslow host of hidden

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truth Las Vegas shooter podcast

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pardon me Jim joins me now live in

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studio what did you make of that when he

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said that to you that his brother did

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this over hookers and coke yeah he

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talked about the controlling nature of

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his brother he talked about when growing

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up he was always the overachiever he

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wanted to attain material goods he would

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point in the family dining room to the

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vases and crystals and there and say one

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day this was gonna be his so this was a

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guy that was motivated by wealth in

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controlling and here he's trying to

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control the machines in Vegas to win

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money to attain that wealth and when it

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starts going south for him and he starts

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losing big everything that would be what

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he says I mean to snap in this way

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nobody could understand the right

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snapping in that way but but yes a

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combination of losing his fortune in the

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machine we don't have confirmation that

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he really did lose him but but there is

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there is belief that he did start losing

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we know at the end of the day you can't

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beat those machines no but you know he

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talked about pushing a pencil the other

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brother believes that he was very

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focused and trying to beat those

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machines his dad was a bank robber he

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was beating the bank there's the Sun

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trying to outdo the father by beating

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the machines this is a colorful

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character in his own right he's had his

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own I mean is it fair to say brushes

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with the law

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yes Bruce panic is currently facing his

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own charges in Los Angeles for

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possession of child pornography

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there was also child pornography found

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on the shooters computer the father was

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also on the FBI's most wanted list in

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Las Vegas was arrested in Las Vegas so

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you have an unbelievable family tragedy

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here you've got clearly some mental

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health issues you've got children being

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raised without a father they learned for

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the first time that they even have a

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father when they're about 20 years old

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mother had raised him to believe that he

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was dead talk about other news being

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made he shared with you and I want to

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listen to this clip I think it's really

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instructive too is when he learned of

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the massacre let's listen to that clip I

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saw that you know that CNN and every

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channel had does this shooting and I

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looked again and they said Stefan

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paddock and I said why so I called my

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mom and my mom answered the phone and I

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said is that Steve and she said I guess

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so and I asked her was was he sick like

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me he broke down what do you think he

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meant by that well you know I followed

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up with him on that when you talked

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about a sickness because we would all

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assume that he's talking about a mental

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illness yeah in the family he is

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suffering from spinal stenosis in fact

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he's in a wheelchair Bruce's right now

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and a big scar and his neck and he's due

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for surgery soon his brother had back

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surgery when he was younger so what he

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says he was referring to is that hey if

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my brother Steven was in the kind of

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pain that I'm in I could understand

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wanting to commit suicide I the nasib

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okay but he didn't do that he didn't do

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that did more but murder suicides are

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something that we see very often

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why this occurs suicide is not very very

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unique and hence the reason why the FBI

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is still you know in the middle of their

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investigation because this is obviously

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a man who's clearly troubled you saw him

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break down talking about what happened

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you took the pain in their family he

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says also that he's sorry that this all

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happened can we play that clip

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I don't know how to say I'm sorry enough

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for what's happened I had no control

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over it I wish I would have been in

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touch with him more so I could have had

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control over and stopped it it's about

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as far as I can go I believe maybe if I

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was there in his life that I could have

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talked some sense into him but people

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like that did live for themselves are

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pretty much unreachable Jim you sat with

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him for over an hour what was your

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takeaway of your time with with him well

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he was pretty emotional and it clearly

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wanted to apologize to the victims to be

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part of a family like this to be

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struggling like this I think he finally

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wanted to speak out and let the victims

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know how he felt he said his mother did

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not want him to do the interview and

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mother refuses to talk about the

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shooting can't bring it up with her

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she's 90 years old he said she says the

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mind of a 20 year old brezel thanks for

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being here I really appreciate it host

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of the hidden truth Las Vegas shooter